Old Guy - "I am wondering if Iran used us to get rid of Saddam for them through Chalabi and his band of "defectors" and their tails of WMDs."

This is what I meant when I said he was thinking like an Arab.

...and Scoville said, "Our government leaders started this without any understanding, and without caring at all that they didn't understand, of the social structure of the country."

Exactly! The trouble is that Americans/Israelis/ Brits only apply Western logic and conventional wisdom. Arabs are smarter and I say that with admiration. They are able to think outside the box and manipulate other nations to do exactly what they want. They know us much better than we know them.

Walt - How can I be racist when, in fact, I am of the same race as Arabs?

Quite frankly, I think the Saudis have manipulated all of the events beginning with 911 and they are laughing all the way to the bank.

How can you win a war if you don't even know the face of our enemy? How many years do you think it will take to find bin Laden? Don't hold your breath, it ain't a gonna happen.