Jeri, your lament for the loss of erudition and gentility on Mudcat is only symptomatic of the rest of this wide world, where these commodities are in ever decreasing supply. People don't give up their seats for old ladies, or hold doors open for one another anymore, please and thank you are either taught and then forgotten or not taught at all to today's kids.
You're harking back to a past that is unfortunately gone, and no one regrets it more than me.
Regretfully I have to learn to live with it!
Giok