The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #94344   Message #1826686
Posted By: Azizi
04-Sep-06 - 01:35 PM
Thread Name: welsh
Subject: RE: welsh
As a definite outsider, but one who is interested in learning about different cultures, would the person referenced or others please answer these questions:

Sian, how is the 'w' pronouced that you said is used at the end of some sentences?

Paul, I'd never read or heard the rhyme "Taffy was a Welshman". I sense that this rhyme is a well know taunt in the UK. Is that so?Is calling a Welsh person "Taffy" as bad as called a Black person the "N" word or calling a person who is Asian or Middle Eastern or Black a "Macaca" {sorry, I'm only spelling the word out because some may not know what I mean if I said the "M" word}. I just learned about this word because of its recent public use two times by the Virgina {USA} Senator Allen.

In Gervases' comment "But even within this small part of west Wales there are degrees of internal prejudice, with younger folk from non-Welsh-speaking homes taking the piss out of the rural "hambones" who do speak Welsh, which is a shame", does the referent "hambone" come from the Black American handclap or patting juba {thigh and body patting} rhyme "Hambone'{hambone/hambone where you been/round the corner and back again etc}. Is this rhyme known in Wales?

And Snuffy, when you wrote: "And many valley folk didn't like black people "because they do come from Cardiff" what did you mean? Are the people from Cardiff darker in complexion than people from other regions of your country, or did you mean black people as I would mean it {people with some African descent?

Again, I'm just asking out of curiousity and a desire to know more about your cultures.

Thank you.


Azizi