I can't say I've heard of either of those but if they are more recent, I wouldn't expect to have. I went for "knowing every car" as it were as a kid to not having a clue what's on the road now.

Had a little bit of a shock when Pip had her Citroen ZX written of and the insurance co let her use a Vauxhall Zafira while she was off the road. I just took it for granted it would be a similar sized hatch - turned out it was a 7 seater "people carrier". Nice car though...