Constantly asking for their removal is just as disloyal to Max as requesting that this be a members only site. Any comments?

Perhaps - if I had done this. But I simply do not understand why any 'moderator' would wish to continue carrying our the owner's policy - if they did not agree with it. Or why any poster can be expected to see their constant complaints about and their wish to change the status quo on our forum - as these 'moderators' best efforts to support the status quo.

So it is hardly my actions that are currently confusing our forum's loyalties - is it?

But (some of) our 'moderators' are constantly asking for my removal - perhaps that could also be judged as also being disloyal?

The answer to our divided loyalties would seem simple.

Those 'moderators' who do not like our forum being open for the public's contributions - as Max has wished it from the very beginning - can form their own private members club and leave the rest of us in peace. On their own new forum - if they cannot stand the heat of working in their own kitchen - they can moan about and throw pots and pans at and exclude whoever they wish.