When I said San Francisco I did not mean the city itself I meant that as an base metro area. Like the camp used in the DC area is not in the city but it would be easily accessible from a major metro area, Washington/Baltimore. Camp Harmony or the like seems to be a fine fit, Sorcha & others that drive would not have to be near a city (same as the Getaway), only those that had to fly, bus or train in would have to & then make a connection from there which would be an easier hop to a camp rather than try going to an unlikely spot like Chico & then finding some sort of transport to Calamazoo. If I for example fly into San Francisco to go the a camp, like others have done. I could arrive in the AM & somehow pre arrange for a ride to the camp, hopefully with a mudcatter or split a rental with a mudcatter, no overnight hotel stay, & be at the camp by afternoon. That could not possibly happen in an area where an airport, train or bus connection are so small to non-existent with hopefully at least one vechicle rental stall.
If this doesn't make sense, that's ok, figure out something else. No matter what I can fool mself & dream.

Barry