Agreed Ron, that it would be hard for you to get the complete picture. And I also agree that there is a certain set that do respond negatively to Shambles. Take a look at the names. Bill D, Wolfgang, Catspaw, Jeri, myself, as well as many others. Most of these folks have been here a long time, and are well respected (myself excluded). Ask yourself what would make a Bill D respond to Shambles. This man is a gentle, good natured, and intelligent poster. Same with Wolfgang. Jeri is awfully hard to set off. Spaw and I, well sometimes our passions get the best of us. Take a look at MMario's comments in this forum, then ask yourself why such a decent guy would respond in a negative way to Shambles.

You just get to the point that you tire of him bringing nothing to the party but bitchin' and whingeing, and his attempts to twist threads to his vendetta. That is why he has been relegated to one thread for this. It got to the point a few years back where every thread was being hijacked. There are places where his obsessiveness actually were a benefit. I think of the PEL situation. I believe I was the first of the Mudcatters to write at his request, to the authorities. But overall, he just was so out of control, and his arguments got so self serving, and his out of context cut and pastes got so tiresome, that this is the outcome. Quite frankly he got off easy. Joe actually stood up for Shambles. I was, and am, in favor of banning him and deleting any posts he puts up. I have been overruled on this.

Mick