Like I have said, yeah, I agree with Old Guy in principle but I also agree that the Iraqis are going to be the ones who are going to have to come to this realization and. like Ebbie pointed out, the US needs to get out of their way... The Bush invasion only insured that Iraq would eventually fall into a civil war... Many of us here predicted this very scenerio would occur and now we arwe there... The US cannot stop it... It's like Pandora's box an there's no fixin'
Bush's screw ups now...

What we need is a realistic policy that acceptes that the Iraqia are going to have to go thru some very painfull growing pains here while bringing in "Saudi Proposal" thinking that involves all the other countries in the Middle East...

Einstien says that "a problem cannot be solved with the sme consciencness that created it" so I'm not too confident that Bush and his folks can pull anything off... Plus they have spent whatever political capital they had from 9/11 and I guess that means that the US is going to need the Dems to step up to the plate... Biden has been talkin' about the things I've mentioned here so, hey, maybe a danged Dem can do somethin' positive...

One thing for sure is that Bush doesn't have a clue and Karl Robve doesn't know anything about foriegn policy either so...

Bobert