Perhaps our forum can be told, how exactly a 'Shambles thread' is now defined?

It would now appear to be any thread that our 'moderators' wish to close - but only of course after they have set the example of posting their own personal judgements (of other threads) in it?

Like the following:

Subject: RE: Open Letter to Max
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 01:42 PM

The birthday threads are obviously intended to be obnoxious, but the nice thing about them is that we can add actual music information to them and reverse the obnoxiousness.

We all have our own opinions on what we judge to be obnoxious intentions or not - perhaps our forum should be left to decide for themselves what those things are?

I may judge the intentions behind these imposed restrictions and thread closures to be obnoxious - but unlike an open thread - it is not possible for posters to 'reverse this obnoxiousness'.