"Does anyone wish to actually discuss the issue?"

No Shambles, they don't. You don't know how to discuss an issue. You charge on ahead without listening to others. Also, there is nothing to discuss. Max will do what Max will do. The moderators are agents of Max and do his bidding. If Max didn't like the job that they are doing or doesn't approve of their methods he would replace them. You are the only one who doesn't accept this. That is not grounds for a discussion.