And finally, Ron, you see another of his neurotic tools. When folks start to enunciate what is wrong, he will then cut and paste ad nauseum and try to overwhelm the conversation. This has been going on for years. He apparently cannot accept the fact that there are other views, and other logic. And he cannot seem to understand that this is just a message board, and not the center of the universe. It is attitudes like his, rather than Joe's, that make it hard to be a place of good feelings and discussion.

Mick