Countess Richard. I have followed this thread with interest, and with a great deal of sympathy with Dick Miles, Brian Peters and the host of measured, perceptive and interesting contributions from club organisers and regulars. Amongst these are scattered your rude and ill considered remarks. I have no problem with you not liking or appreciating folk clubs but I find your inability to accept that a great many other people find that they are exactly the right vehicle for the combination of music and friendship they are looking for quite unacceptable. Is it possible for you to cite your points without insulting other people? And could you please explain why you insist on using 'f*lk' rather than 'folk'

Helen.