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Thread #83033   Message #1891365
Posted By: Don Firth
22-Nov-06 - 10:47 PM
Thread Name: Tech: Edirol Portable Digital Recorder
Subject: RE: Tech: Edirol Portable Digital Recorder
I would like to get knowledgeable opinions on some specifics, but since this general subject has already been discussed in about eleventy-fourteen threads, I thought I'd piggy-back on this one rather than risk general wrath by starting yet another one.

I've made a lot of tapes—practice tapes and informal tapes from song fests and such, most made on a small, portable cassette recorder—but I've never done a genuine "buy it at your local record store" record. I had a close brush or two with eastern record companies back in the early Sixties, but nothing ever came of it, and although there were a couple of record companies in the Puget Sound area, they were focused on local soft rock cum doo-wop groups (e.g., The Fleetwoods—no relation to Fleetwood Mac). Not only were they not interested in the local folk scene, they were downright hostile to it. So no joy there.

In Dave Van Ronk's memoir, The Mayor of MacDougal Street, he phrases it very neatly:   "In vinyl veritas."   Having a record out gives a singer a certain legitimacy. Among other things, it makes getting gigs a whole lot easier. Not that I'm seeking gigs. I consider myself essentially retired, and am open only to informal song fests, occasional folk festivals, and a house concert now and then.

Although I know two or three people locally with some pretty good home recording equipment who would, I'm pretty sure, be willing to work with me on cobbling together a CD or two (one person has already put out a few quite good CDs of local folks), I would actually prefer to do it on my own time and in my own way—on my own equipment.

"Now, here's my plan. . . ."
            —Shel Silverstein

What I have in mind is to record, over a period of time, just about every song I know and, also over time, put out as many CDs as I have in me. An ongoing project. I would like to get my own recording equipment and set up my own studio. Of necessity, I would have to do it on the cheap. But with digital recording these days, I understand that one can get pretty good quality sound at not too steep a cost.

I have just become acquainted with the Marantz PMD660. A friend has one. It's about the size of my old portable Panasonic cassette recorder, but it records on solid-state CompactFlash cards—like a digital camera—and you can download what you've recorded to a computer with a USB cord, just like a digital camera. The sound quality I heard coming back through the earphones was most impressive. And my friend has burned a few CDs from things he's recorded on it (using a Shure external mic) that sound very good to my ear. The Marantz lists for $649, but lots of places sell them for $499. I'd wince a bit, but if it will do the job, I could go that.

I've read a few reviews that have bad-mouthed it, but a thorough reading shows that those who didn't like it were relying on the in-built mics, which are okay, but hardly up to commercial quality for music. For good quality stuff, one really needs an external mic.

I've done some research on mics, and the consensus seems to be that large diaphragm condenser mics are generally preferred for voice and acoustical instruments. Since I will be recording just my voice and my acoustic guitar—no tubas, drums, Swiss bells, cannon shots, etc.—that sounds like the route to go. Dynamic mics, such as the Shure SM58, are perhaps more durable under hard use (like live performance, getting accidentally whacked with a drumstick, etc.), but since I would be using the condenser mic at home, that shouldn't be a problem. The SM58 is a very good mic, but from what I've read, condenser mics are generally preferred by record studios for vocals. And acoustic guitars.

Condenser mics can get pretty pricy, but gleaning info on good, relatively inexpensive condenser mics came up with the several possibilities. ADK, Behringer, Audio Technica, and Studio Projects all have large diaphragm condenser mics available for between $90 and $150, and although the caveat is always "you get what you pay for (usually)," the reviews on these look pretty good. Also, would I need two mics, one for voice and one for the guitar (preferable, I know), or would one mic actually suffice?

Rather than spending $500 on one of the big-name music editing programs, I note that there are a several available for download for from $35 to $50, including one (Audacity) that's free. The downloadable ones seem to have all or most of the features of the big-ticket ones, but here I know I'm in over my head.

I'm not looking to make a wad of money (although if one or more of them went platinum, I wouldn't burst into tears), I just want to get the songs down and get them out there, just in case someone might want to give them a listen. Actually, if I just broke even, I'd be tickled pink. Nor, for that matter, am I particularly interested in doing a lot of multiple dubs (singing harmony with myself or adding a second guitar track—although that could be kind of a snort), just voice and guitar.

So I figure the Marantz PMD660, a good but relatively inexpensive condenser mic, and one of the downloadable music editing programs, and I'm set to record my stuff, then burn a master CD. I would then seek help from that point on, but I think I know who to talk to about that.

Does this sound like a plan? Or am I cruising through dreamland?

Opinions? Suggestions?

Don Firth