I think it comes down to kettles and pans, Ard. I agree with you entirely but what may be rubbing some people up the wrong way is the 'YOUR country bit. I know you have already agreed that it is the same over there, in some ways I believe it to be worse (See Divis's thread on race crime). But it may give the impression that you have raised the point to show how much better Ireland is. I don't think you have and I know that things in the North of your isle are indeed no better than on this one.

Shields Folk - It is bad over here. There is no doubt. It is bad in Northern Ireland as well. It is undoubtably better in other countries. I think if everyone takes a step back we will see we are in agreement and instead of arguing we all need to do something about it!



Cheers

DtG