another organiser,who has been involved with running folk clubs at Bishops Stortford for 40 years,Jon Macnamara.
    He also helps to organise a monthly concertina workshop[TheChiltinas]for whom I did a Workshop on traditional ornamentation, and song accompaniment.
so jim, there is quite a lot going on at folk clubs, and their offshoots[workshops]to help people improve and learn.Dick Miles