Maybe John from the Sunset Coast would like to define what winning this war would look like??? Then, perhaps we can re-examine why "not winning" doesn't mean losing???

Stalemate???

Hmmmmmmmm???

Upwards of 600,000 dead and another 100 a day, chaos, instability, a war based on lies and what we have here is a stalemate???

Hmmmmmmmm, part B...

Maybe a definaition of stalemate is in order, also...

Einstein said that repeating a bahavior expecting defferent results is "insanity"...

What we have here is "insane" foriegn policy... Not a friggin' stalemate...

And worst part about this "insane" forieng policy is abnother of Einstein's observations that a problem cabnnot be solved with the conscoiusness that created it so...

...we are screwed!!!

Insane foreign policy and no truely new paradigm...

Bobert