Mbo- If you know how he feels, can you maybe give me a hint on how to talk to him ever again? Or should I just leave him alone? I've moved on, and have a very happy relationship of about five years, but he hasn't... or maybe he has... I can't tell, I just know that it scares him to talk to me, and there are things behind his eyes I never saw before it all went... pear shaped :P-J