melodeonboy you're missing the point a bit. If we reduce the demand for 4x4's there wont be any produced (basic supply and demand). That is going to make it a bit difficult for 'essential' users to buy them. That is when the problems will arise (I seem to remember during one of the snow falls on one of the southern moors that 4x4's were the only vehicles to get anywhere (helping stranded idiots in 'normal' cars who had got stuck) I feel, that with the current attitude to 4x4's, somewhat less likely to help anyone stuck in bad conditions (just in case they are a supporter of 'ban the 4x4). Having driven in London I can understand why women might want the extra vision and protection offered by a 4x4. I certainly would (better still a tank). Freedom of choice is no little thing! I hear we are now to be dosed with folic acid, whether we like it or not (along with fluoride (some industry's waste product). I happen to be male and 60 and unless they come up with some seriously life changing event then I don't see the need to dose me to protect babies!