Though I hesitate to debate with people who style themselves
only as 'Guest,' I'd point out that some of the better thinkers
around turn up on CNN and NPR...though maybe not Fox.

Another interpretation regarding Cheney and Rumsfeld is that they
observed Gerald Ford, and how his decent and genial style failed
to sustain him in the halls of power, and resolved to adopt a more
polarizing and confrontational style.

And if you look carefully, you'd see that Ford did precisely what
the left are calling on Dubya to do...disengage from a futile effort
to determine the outcome of a guerilla-powered civil war.

You can't at once castigate Ford for the 'fall of Saigon' and
then turn around and advise Dubya to cut the losses in Baghdad.

Unless, of course, you're the type who has established that
everything that 'they' do is wrong, and 'you' know the better way,
only that they won't elect you even if you do come out of the pub
three hours earlier than usual.