It isn't just "the owner". It is clear that many people (I suspect it's the great majority) who continue to come here tend on the whole to agree with Joe Offer and friends rather than with Shambles in this obsessive and ungracious campaign he has been carrying on since the last millennium.

If you bang your head against a brick wall for long enough something is bound to give way. Probably the head.

I don't think talking in terms of ownership and free enterprise is that relevant really. It's more a question of a free assembly, being held in premises generously provided by a friendly person, as a friendly act, who woudlm very much rather it didn't turn inmto a roughhouse.

Most people come here because we like it. Shambles evidently stays because he doesn't like it. Maybe there is someone else who actually agrees with him? Maybe. Maybe not.