The "hemmoraging" thread is gone, not just closed? Pathetic. Mudcat is falling apart. Many members will be bitterly disappoiunted, but none will be more upset to see their toy in pieces than Max and Joe. Yet they've brought it on themselves.

Max, to be fair, probably has the intellect to give the cafe a Gordon Ramsay makeover, but seemingly he hasn't the time. Thus he has to depend on the hapless Joe, who doesn't know which way to turn.

Anyway, the loss of that "hemmoraging" thread is a bitter blow for me. It had in it a post from me that was one of the very few that has brought me PMs in support.

In a nutshell I had been remarking on the kind of personal abuse that Spaw is allowed to spew. The example I quoted was the choice piece of Spawspew which has already been quoted in this thread, in which Shambles was subjected to tirade of venomous abuse. Not only (I flew on) was Spaw allowed to do this, but he was positively encouraged to do so by the Mudcat moderator, Joe Offer. Again the relevant post from Joe is quoted higher in this thread. Yet at the same time as he was so successfully drawing out the worst in Spaw, St Joe was solemnly assuring the Mudcat community that personal abuse would not be tolerated.

Of course, the sense of justice in Mudcat's higher echelons is such that it was Shambles, not Spaw, who was asked to leave! What would a visitor to Mudcat, an innocent abroad, make of all this? Well such a visitor would be greeted by a chorus of sycophantic voices saying "Oh, you couldn't begin to understand, you poor newbie...." How very welcoming.

I don't suppose Joe and Spaw had much by way of answers to what I posted, so I guess they reckoned it was easiest just to delete the thread.