Yeh, you can say say what you want about them, but you don't get the Bleacher Lass of Kelvinhaugh on Pebble Mill at One nowadays. If you got it anywhere it would be some arsehole on Jools Holland at midnight trying to prove he was as street cred as Take That.

Well you don't get Pebble Mill at One - as Paul Downes wittily put it - Breakfast television for musicians.

Those days is gone.