You know, I was thinking that too (what Paul said). But maybe this thread represents an opportunity for people who have been too close to a fire, in the past, to notice that they have learned quite a bit about dealing with fire. Maybe things that were intolerable before have become manageable. I don't know, I wasn't here when the "history" of all this occurred. And I know some of the people who were there, aren't now. But I have seen this phenomenon before, and I think I see it happening again.

There are no guarantees on this earth of safety, either physical or emotional. We all have the choice to be here or not be here, if we are uncomfortable for any reason. But then neutrality is so ingrained in me; as I've said, I have been known to pray for the devil himself, although I don't ask him to dinner.

But I would point out that since joining, the whole Gargoyle thing has been pretty confusing to one who was not there when "IT" happened. It has to feel that way to other newbies when they read this thread, although maybe even this one, with all the half-said stuff, has helped paint a picture however fuzzy. As for me, I just decided the best course was to take each posting at face value, guided by discernment; any of us can go freakie anytime you know, and we all change each day in some way. The trick is to be HERE when we're here, and not some otherplace or otherwhen.

As a new member, I would prefer to see a decisive approach taken-- someone is in or is out. If someone is in, and if that makes a problem, then there are remedies open to us all not only here at the Mudcat but in the 3D world as well.