Of course not, particularly not Harvey and Eric Bogle. And I've spent hours singing both their songs and in Eric's case, his Green Fields of France has helped pay the bills when I was doing the Irish theme pub circuit.

Everybody's creative effort is to be cherished. I don't much care for threads where they say I think we could learn a thing or two from Adolph(sic) Hitler. but otherwise......

I just feel somehow the folksong movement has never truly connected with anybody except those on the fringes of society. In the way that earlier folksong writers did seemingly effortlessly - somehow they wrote about the joys and sorrows of their lives.

You know how Ian Campbell wrote the old man's song about the old boy waiting to die. Maybe its time for the middle aged man's song, or the young man's song, or the young woman's song. Those of us living in the midst of life - the teachers, checkout people at supermarkets, call centres, clerks, nurses, car park attendants, security guards.......anybody except jolly blacksmiths and the like, who have been well catered for over the last three or four centuries.