Yes I think we've all been close at some time or another. I bet the man was prepared to throw himself off a cliff afterwards. I can remember thinking as I threw a screaming child into it's cot after hours of difficulties with it, how easy it must be to slip over the line into actually hitting it, not with the purpose of training or teaching, but just out of being at the end of one's tether. Of course some people, due to many factors, have less control over slipping over that line, than others. It's part of why Kendal is right on the "Spank or no spank" thread when he says "Never hit in anger". It's just that sometimes it#s not so easy not to.

Love Lynne