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Thread #97413   Message #1947672
Posted By: Grab
25-Jan-07 - 11:23 AM
Thread Name: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
Subject: RE: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
Have you ever wondered why all legal documents such as your driver's license, credit cards, utility bills and other legal and business documents depict your name in all capital letters?

Not recently. Capital letters is standard usage in every area of life where accuracy is required, because capital letters are less prone to misreading. I do it myself regularly.

In a court of law, that makes you (yourself, as an individual with inalienable rights), a distinct entity from your CORPORATE SELF.

Point me at the legal decision which says this, and I'll believe you.

the govt can only tax corporations and businesses

Since when? Point me at the law which says this, and I'll believe you.

If people *are* unsure about whether income tax is illegal in the US, I refer them to the US Constitution, 16th Amendment:-

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

For other taxes, section 8:-

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States"

No mention of it only applying to corporations and businesses.

The top of the property deed I'm looking at right now says I don't have to volunteer my Social Security # or my driver's license number if I'm a "natural person."

If the owner of the property is not a "natural person", it's an "artificial person" which does not physically exist. Therefore it's entirely normal that it doesn't need an SSN or driver's license, because there's no way it could have one. You don't regularly see metaphysical entities driving down the road, do you?

As for those claims, I don't know how it works in the States, but in the UK an "artificial person" (called a "limited company" in the UK) can only exist by filing with Companies House to create a company. That costs money. Every financial year, companies are required to submit their accounts, which must be completed by a qualified accountant. Failure to do so incurs a fine. If you care to do so, you can look up details of any company (for free, doesn't cost a penny). I'm afraid that you'll find there is no such thing as "one artificial person per natural person" in the UK.

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Oh, I had a little look at your website. On the "most important page", I saw:-

"from the Canadian Law Dictionary we find that:
individual means a natural person,
from the Income Tax Act we find the re-definition:
individual means an artificial person."

So I went looking. In the Income Tax Act, I found the following text:-

"individual" means a person other than a corporation"

Oops. Sorry, there goes that hypothesis.

Graham.