weelittledrummer : You are absolutely right about the F85. I bought mine in March 1975 and still have it. Fantastic guitar for what it was supposed to be - a Martin D35 copy.

Pity those who disagree with you probably wern't even born when the F85's were being built. I doubt they even know what we/they are talking about (or that they even ever played a F85 - let alone ever saw one) and perhaps from their inane comments they don't even care.