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Thread #97835   Message #1952708
Posted By: GUEST,Dickey
30-Jan-07 - 02:11 PM
Thread Name: BS: Maliki doesn't want more U.S. troops
Subject: RE: BS: Maliki doesn't want more U.S. troops
Books make money do they not?

There are books pro and con on everything you can think of, written precisely to sell.

Newspapers, radio and TV need to make money too so they gravitate to the expose and if it bleeds it leads philosophy to get the snatch the biggest audience from the others so it becomes a contest to see who can be the most negative. So who reports the good news?

I prefer facts like that poll that shows the the number of people believing there was a connection between Saddam and 9/11 went down during the time of the supposed propaganda campaign instead of up.

Of course when Ron couldn't argue his way out of that fact even with his obligatory personal attacks, he shifts his argument that it was about convincing the public that Saddam might give WMDs to terrorists. The previous administration did that without any help from George. The Intel and personnel carried over from the Clinton administration had everybody convinced that Saddam had WMDs.

< a href="http://theanchoressonline.com/2005/10/25/wmd-intel-pre-dated-bush/">WMD Intel pre-dated Bush
"This was the consensus before Bush took office, before Scooter Libby assumed his post and before Judith Miller did most of the reporting for which she is now, uniquely, criticized. It was based on reporting by a large of number of journalists who in turn based their stories on the judgments of international intelligence analysts, Clinton officials and weapons inspectors. As we wage what the Times now calls "the continuing battle over the Bush administration's justification for the war in Iraq," we will have to grapple with the stubborn fact that the underlying rationale for the war was already in place when this administration arrived...
..The Times was not alone, of course. On Jan. 29, 2001, The Post editorialized that "of all the booby traps left behind by the Clinton administration, none is more dangerous — or more urgent — than the situation in Iraq. Over the last year, Mr. Clinton and his team quietly avoided dealing with, or calling attention to, the almost complete unraveling of a decade's efforts to isolate the regime of Saddam Hussein and prevent it from rebuilding its weapons of mass destruction. That leaves President Bush to confront a dismaying panorama in the Persian Gulf," including "intelligence photos that show the reconstruction of factories long suspected of producing chemical and biological weapons.""


Go plunk your money down on this one and enrich the reporter for the currently anti-bush Washington Post that wrote it.

Spin Cycle: Inside the Clinton Propaganda Machine
"With a slew of simultaneous scandals to his credit and numerous ongoing investigations pending, President Clinton has been bombarded by the media in a fashion not seen since the last days of the Nixon administration. Despite this unwanted attention, Clinton has managed to maintain lofty approval ratings and successfully deflect even the most ardent attacks. How does he do it? This question is answered in full in Spin Cycle: Inside the Clinton Propaganda Machine, an engrossing, back room look at how news is created and packaged in the White House and the methods used to distribute it to the public. In painting a detailed picture of the hand-to-hand combat known as a press conference, Kurtz shows how the use of controlled leaks, meticulously worded briefs, and the outright avoidance of certain questions allows the White House to control the scope and content of the stories that make it to the front page and the nightly network news. As Kurtz makes clear, the president and First Lady are convinced that the media are out to get them, while the journalists covering the White House are constantly frustrated at the stonewalling and the lack of cooperation they encounter while trying to do their jobs. In the middle is White House press secretary Mike McCurry, a master at defusing volatile situations and walking the fine line with the press. Though less paranoid and cynical of the media than Clinton, he often finds himself on both ends of personal attacks and vendettas that veer far outside the arena of objective reporting. The anecdotes and carefully buried information Kurtz has uncovered give Spin Cycle a brisk pace, along with ample invaluable information that cuts to the core of this age of media overkill. The author of Hot Air and Media Circus and a longtime media reporter for the Washington Post, Kurtz is uniquely qualified to report on the status of news dissemination in the United States."

And if you think I am all pro Bush your are prone to propaganda yourself. I think the Reagan, Bush one, Clinton and Bush 2 all screwed this one up. Bush can say that he and his father were for Saddam before they were against them.

Winning this war by beating up on the president is like trying to cure cancer by beating up on the patient for smoking.

What matters is what is and no one here has the slightest idea of what the future consequences might be from leaving Iraq in turmoil nor do they care. All they want is to crucify Bush so they can feel better.

Politicians want to to sign something that says they are now against the war and against the surge to cleanse themselves for the next election cycle while at the same time confirming and sending a General off to command the troop surge.