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Thread #98391   Message #1958139
Posted By: GUEST
05-Feb-07 - 02:44 PM
Thread Name: Research project: Traditional Folk music
Subject: RE: Research project: Traditional Folk music
There appears to be no evidence whatever that Lloyd 'wrote Reynardine and passed it off as traditional' though he certainly did claim it to be traditional. Bert certainly did catergorise his songs, though he was well known for taking liberties with them.
In this particular case, with a couple of slight variations, Bert's version sticks fairly closely to the printed and traditional texts.
His notes to it on 'First Person' were somewhat ambiguous, though he did appear to support the idea that it was a supernatural song, a view held by several collectors. Helen Creighton lists it as a supernatural song and in a note to the version in her 'Maritime Folk Songs' quotes her singer, Mr Freeman Young of East Pepeswick as saying 'Rinordine is supposed to be a magic feller'. Herbert Hughes in his 'Irish Country Songs' says he found a version where Reynardine turns into a fox.
There is nothing wrong with writing, re-writing or adapting songs Cap'n; the problem is when you make false or inaccurate claims on your adaptations.
Jim Carroll