dianavan - none of us is wholly objective. I have very close friends who have been and are on tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan. It is their first-hand experiences which shape my views. As such I believe the NATO operations in Afghanistan to be justified (if somewhat poorly put together) and the US-led invasion of Iraq to be wholly unjustified.
That is necessarily a subjective view because, unlike some, I am not privy to all the facts and don't have 20:20 foresight.
I also think the betrayal of confidences is unforgiveable. If you cannot conduct an argument based on the generally available facts (particularly in this instance) then step away from the plate. Such 'dirty tricks' belong in the hands of the sort currently machinating against the Democrat candidates in the US elections.
McGrath is right - this thread is now tainted.