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Thread #99283   Message #1982760
Posted By: Bee
01-Mar-07 - 10:38 AM
Thread Name: BS: Faith-based Initiative to Supreme Court
Subject: RE: BS: Faith-based Initiative to Supreme Court
"You may feel that way , Frank, but you and other members of the Church Of Secular Humanisn strongly believe there is no God and that is your faith statement. It is not a proven fact that God does not exist but you belive it." - PDQ

PDQ, some of us non-believers are really, strictly, truly, not holders to any religion, faith, belief in deity. You may be right about Frank, I don't know his exact views, but you would be wrong about me and most atheists-agnostics. In fact, there is a proper term for someone who strongly believes, without proof, that there are no gods, and that is an anti-theist.

I have no 'faith' there is no god. I don't know. I also have no 'faith' that there is a god. In fact, I have no faith at all, from which stems my lack of belief. No one has offered me any evidence that there is a deity. Some evidence has been offered me that there is no deity, but it has not been irrefutable evidence (or I have failed to understand it due to a lack of higher education in physics and maths).

That is not a faith statement. My thought processes do not include an ability to decide on god or not god by way of faith. So with not one iota of evidence for the existence of a deity, and some evidence against, I tend towards thinking deities are unlikely, not impossible. Should someone offer me good evidence that god/s exist, I would change my mind on the issue as matter of factly as I changed my mind on whether car airbags were safe, once I had read the statistical evidence.

It is very annoying to have someone else tell you what you think or believe, as if you didn't know yourself. Suppose I were to tell you that you don't really believe in your god, you're just saying that, and are really an atheist?