It is also good to notice IMHO that one thing about this kind of community which nourishes fiendship is that it takes place outside the theater of survival efforts in which we all must engage. When someone comes to this forum, they have for the most part put aside the trials and tribulations of battling for a living. Deeper issues -- our longer term hopes, our bigger celebrations and profounder losses and most of all our most important reflections --- things which don't have an outlet when fighting for market share or product completion or profitable sales or grant money or completed theses or finished framing jobs or whatever -- have an opportunity to come up and be treated. Which is very very good. And goes toward explaining the real habituating power of the forum.