Thanks for your help. I found the sites alright. My problem is I don't know how to save the files either to my abc2win or to musictime. I tried saving one from Joe's site to musictime. Got message, could not save. Wrong type file. It was saving as html. Then Bill;s site asked, "save as abc file." I said OK. It ended up on my desktop...... Oh, if I only know what I'm doing....... Dan: about Musictime. I've been using it for a couple of years on my old computer. It works great. Of course I haven't done anything fancy with it. Just print score with words and chords for our local dulcimer society. It is possible to put tab in if you do it in the lyrics space.... I've enrolled in a Windows 95 class at our local adult education school......maybe I'll learn something about saving files...........