Don, I don't think 'all pro-greens' say anything of the sort. I live further in the boonies than you ever will, there is no public transit at all. It is Big Oil which is pricing you off the road, not the greens. Vehicles with better fuel economies, sensible alternate fuels (ethanol is a sham, IMO, as it is just as unfriendly to produce in the long run), more dependence on wind power, solar arrays, decentralization so jobs will be in more communities, not just in gigantic urban centres, good public transit, etc., are things more likely to be effective.