I seem to remember that one or two people thaught that we would make a hash out of the "commonwealth games" as well. Granted we did have them in Manchester, but that was only because London didn't want it..... anyway they were a resounding success! London might just suprize you (and me)! Is it worth it, YES it is a win /win for us northerneers! If London pull it off, all well and good, if not at least we can tell "them" what a cock up they made of it! 4 Billion it's cheap mate!