Okay Ratty old pal, but the point is that people have phoned me - shall I go and see this guy, and in those days I was a completely uncritical member of the movement - and these people....good people I might add have never gone to folk club again.

we have a responsibility to hand on this music. think of the idealism behind the singing together programmes on the steam radio, think of Bands like The Spinners who played The Bleacher Lass of Kelvihall on Pebble Mill at One. It wasn't perfect what those guys were trying to do, but unless we start applying ourselves to looking for a more accessible way - this music is going to die.

That simple. Ask club organisers like The Villan, what kind of reputation folk music has got for indifference to its audience.

I just see the responsible bodies, as totally irresponsible.