BTW, DV, show me a prisoner, any prisoner, in the UK (you deal with the USA, the UK never agreed to the US holding UK people in the USA's torture camp in Guantanamo Bay) being tortured so sign false confessions and paraded on TV.

It gets clearer by the minute that the UK personnel were not in Iranian water, and that the Iranians were on an illegal snatch mission. There was a nutty professor of "political geography" (funny, I didn't know mountains could vote) from Tehran the other night who said that the first location the Iranians gave (the one that put the UK personnel nearly 2 miles outside Iranian waters) was at the margin of error in one direction and the later one that put them 2 miles inside Iranian waters (after the Iranians changed thier mind) was at the other margin.

A 4 mile margin of error on Sat-nav positioning? I don't think so.

And ask yourself where the Iranian pictures of the moments so soon after the seizure came from. Do the Iranian military intercept boats carry TV cameras? Er- perhaps this was a staged stunt by the Iranians...

I have agreed with you about the plight of the oppressed in the past, but this particular episode has only one right and only one wrong side.