Part of the problem with this thread is the thread. It begins with the premise that Blair is a hypocrite (which he may or may not be) and in order to prove he is, it requires people to either tacitly or explicitly support Iran. Iran at present is not a country worth supporting. It has a miserable human rights recortd and has had for decades. People then say that was caused by the USA (and Russia had its hands in there, too) and whether or not that is true, it does not deal with the fact that TODAY, Iran is repressive, and in some ways barbaric.

So, people dig into Persian history and support how civilized Iran is! NO! That is how civilized Iran WAS.

Case in point. I posted to a thread where 'Christian' countries were taking the piss for all the invasions they have done. In fact, the thread argument had shifeted to the Crusades and the slaughters of people done by 'Christians'. My post named countries that had been invaded by 'Islam' hundreds of years ago. Fact is, Muslims are no more peaceful than Christians. The problem is one of what's arguable and what isn't. When a person has to support a country like Iran in order to slag a nation like the UK, it simply means people are saying they think Iranian bastards are better than British bastards.

How many of you support the government of Iran: its abuse of citizens, specifically women; its gun running, its contributions to the deaths of children in other countries? How many of you?

Wait. I can hear it now: The USA caused it. Bullshit. The Neocons in Iran are NO better than the Neocons in the USA or Britain for that matter. Check your own morality in this issue. You support a theocracy, the same theocracy you dislike in the USA. Give it a rest yourself. Make another point.