Well, when the Seanate Majority leade stands up and say "This war is lost," there is a good chance that things aren't excatly going too well... We're not talkin' about some freshman senator here but the majority leader...

I've been saying this along time now and evidence isn't exactly on the Bushite's side that I, or the good senator, are wrong in our assesments...

At some point in time the reality will set in with even the most partisan of the Bushites here that this war has been lost...

Okay, I recognize that there will be a small umber of them that will not accept the loss and will argue until the day they die that " we could have won if only ___________," just as those who argue that if we had just stayed in Vietnam then we would have eventually won...

This war was lost the day the Supreme Court stopped the recount in Florida in 2000!!!

Bobert