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Thread #101093   Message #2035860
Posted By: John Hardly
25-Apr-07 - 07:03 PM
Thread Name: BS: Forgive Judas?
Subject: RE: BS: Forgive Judas?
Don,

Perhaps you shouldn't assume (as is always your way) what I do or don't know about these scholars.

"Thomas was condemned by the early church because he questioned whether the other apostles had actually seen Jesus after the crucifixion. He continued to doubt until he saw Jesus with his own eyes.

The early church fathers identified Mary Magdalene as a prostitute, although there is nothing in the Gospels that says so."


It is merely part of their respective stories. No hatchet.

Mary was known for having been demon-possessed according to the Bible narrative.

Thomas expressed doubt at the resurrection.

Peter denied knowing Jesus (3 times). Additionally, he was two-faced regarding the law and the early church and the relationship between traditional Judaism and the new church.

John and James selfishly vied for position in the kingdom of heaven.

Paul held the robes of those who stoned Stephen.

James chickened out of Paul's first missionary journey.

The story is of redemption. Very few of the disciples, apostles, early followers, were presented as perfect -- and those that were (like, perhaps Stephen) still weren't presented as perfect -- just that their whole story was never told -- only the parts salient to the ongoing story. Presenting them as perfect isn't the point when "forgiven" is the tale being told. And the tale was and is told. The ARE held up, remembered, and revered as saints. They are not hatcheted.