The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #100831   Message #2035946
Posted By: Bobert
25-Apr-07 - 09:35 PM
Thread Name: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
Subject: RE: BS: Virginia Tech Shooting, 20 dead?
So this is where the guns thread has gone....

First of all, bb, there is a certain level of ***reasonalableness*** in the argument that the Founding Fathers didn't envsion the menu of weapons that wetre to be offered to the general population some 250 year into their future...

And lets keep in mind that this right to bear arms was tied to a standing militia... Like how many folks who are pakin' 9 mm's are part of some militia...

I mean, can we get real here for one friggin second???

You, and others, say that you have a right to own handguns, which were used pretty much as cap'n'ball dueling pistols when the Founding Fathers wrote the 2nd ammendment, that will spew out deadly slugs of lead as fast as you can pull the trigger???

Is that your argument, bb???

On the other thread about guns you challenged me to show how the internet is different than the developemnt of more deadly handguns and I pointed out that Thomas Jefferson sated that the success of democracy would depend on an "informed electorate" and therefore Thomas Jefferson would be very much in favor of anything that spread ***informaton*** that would better inform the masses...

Okay, there are mnay laws on the books that would help cut down on senseless gun violence if they were enforced... Enforcement is a politican statement... We have laws that say you can't drive over 65 mph on I-95 but folks do 75 ot 80... So politics do enter into enforcement... But beyond enforcement there are some conversations that are still waitin' to be played ou7t...

One such coversation is that when folks who have some reasonable concerns about handgun proliferation voice their concerns they get the NRA knee-jerk reaction from gun owners???

Like, what's that all about???

Do you all own stock in Smith & Wesson, or what???

Why can't the rest of us ask some questions without being made into some tree-huggin' commies???

I mean, let's get real here... It's our country, too!!!

Bobert
(gun owner)
(former NRA member)