Alan, what about the sae wasp or dreaded sea snake, while livin on Maui I met a good bit of Aussies that came up for the weather, but after talking for a while I started to wonder if it wasn't to get away from things that swim (in fresh & salt), but I'm sure I could just use a little enlightenment, really I'm a city fella & don't know what to belive anymore. The older I get the more I (don't know or is it can't remember). Barry