It seems to me there's a lot of "whose ox is being gored" going on in this matter.

Anyone who has any relatives trying to gain access or citizenship, or who has any financial interest in easy access for their friends, relative or employees asserts the set of arguments which tend to support them.

What we need is laws and procedures which are in the best interests of the country as a whole. Achieving this is not a simple process, as there is NO way to make a decision that does not upset or inconvenience some group. When I see videos of protests, or listen to interviews of supporters for amnesty and easy immigration, I hear very little reasoned explanations....I hear emotional pleas based on buzz words ("we're not criminals") and attempts to sway public opinion with alternating threats of economic disaster and international condemnation.

Now I see that Lou Dobbs is being called names and accused of ignorance and bigotry based on his continued calls for stopping the export of jobs and import of largely illegal immigrants. Dobbs has opponents on his program and debates with them politely. Listen to ALL of what he says, not just the parts that you disagree with. HE knows it is not an easy problem to solve, but he also is not afraid to explain why the status quo is not working.