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Thread #101326   Message #2042355
Posted By: Anglo
03-May-07 - 11:54 AM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: Scottish Sea Shanties
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scottish Sea Shanties
Shanties were used on merchant ships, not on navy ships (considered bad for discipline, for one thing). When rhythm was needed in the navy, they tended to use a fiddler or drummer.

Not wishing to pick a fight with Freda, I would point out that Harry Robertson's songs (and he was an expatriate Scot) are not in any way shanties, fine as they are. He wrote a number of songs about his whaling experiences in Australia, which doesn't answer the question.

There were Gallic rowing songs, certainly, but I don't know them. My feeling is that a Scottish shantyman on a merchant packet would have sung songs in English on a British ship, and learn whatever was being sung if he was on a foreign ship.

The best overview of shanties and their usage and history is Stan Hugill's book Shanties of the Seven Seas, primarily English but with songs in many languages.

Personally I think the Rogue's Gallery is mostly a bunch of crap.