The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #101405   Message #2046151
Posted By: Donuel
08-May-07 - 10:56 AM
Thread Name: BS: amazing email virus
Subject: RE: BS: amazing email virus
Uncle Dave,

There is a provision in the law that we will call the reasonable man.

A reasonable man will take action that is appropriate to the situation. Should that situation be an intruder that poses no threat a reasonable man would take non threatening action such as detaining the intruder and/or calling the police.

If the intruder is a threat to life and limb, a reasonable man could apply measures equal to that threat.

It is also recognized that some people are held to a higher standard of the reasonable man concept due to; age, training, education, physical/metal handicaps etc.

The law is also heavily weighted on the side of property rights. So if someone were attempting to steal a reasonable man's life savings from under his mattress, a reasonable man can use such measures to protect his economic life blood that could include extreme violence. However if this occured anyplace else except for example, the victim's bedroom then the defensive violent actions of said victim would be assault. (of course you can't physically defend yourself from Enron electric overcharges, Comcast over charges, Realator overcharges, refinery overcharges at the pump even though it amounts to theft.)


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My thinking is this, if a crook has a pole with a hook on it and is stealing from me through my bedroom window - or if he is using my cable wire to hook things out of my computer for identity theft and credit card fraud -

they are both on my property. They are both attmpting to violate my property rights. They are both attmepting unarmed robbery.

So I expect those guilty of such intrusions to face charges of attempted robbery that might carry a 5-7 year sentence.

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Amzon uses software to determine your preferences and you agree to this when you register. If it is done without permission for criminal purposes it is an invasion. Many huge coporations will buy your stolen data and with a wink and a nod conspire with ad ware aspy ware and MALWAR hackers to hurt your property.

SONY is an obvious example of this. Their malware designed initially to protect their music and dvd releases has destroyed Federal computers and private computers alike in the hundreds of thousands.
They were fined 7 figures (many million$) But who went to jail?
You got it. no one.

Where is the software for consumers to trace precisly where and who is commiting unarmed robbery on them?

Where are the heroic hackers that can help us catch the criminals?


Perhaps if I raise a stink (with spaw's help) we can recruit people who will develop sharware to catch these criminals who conspire with huge corporations.