Pete Seeger, The Beers Family, The New Lost City Ramblers all came to town in one year (1961) and made clear to me what Burl Ives had been singing on Jack Paar...plus one guy in town knew Child Ballads and had a subscription to "Sing Out"...so we started having Hootenannies and ignoring PP&M. Then there were the Jean Redpath records in the public library...there was no turing back.