About the Italians and Greeks...it was not long ago, probably still going on in my lifetime, when there was pretty serious prejudice against Italians, Greeks, others of Mediteranean descent. Italians in USA have particularly suffered because of Mafia assumptions. They were definitely second-class citizens and considered socially inferior. But they helped build America, feed America..have you ever been to an old Italian or Greek neighborhood..Seattle and Vancouver BC still had them years ago..and you could see how they fed a family on a little city lot..every cubic inch reaching up to the sky covered with food..a winery in the basement..a pigeon rookery on the roof..probably some chickens..maybe a goat hiding somewhere...awesome. mg