I've been frequenting the Mudcat Cafe for only about 5 months. Don't get here as often as I did in the beginning, but still look forward to a daily fix. I pay little attention to the "flamers." They can be found anywhere in life and you can choose to igore them, as I have, or if you'd rather jump in, be my guest. I find this to be a gentle place, friendly and welcoming. Just like my home in Kentucky. Glad to have you here, Canoer. Oh, by the way, I'll bet you find the "whitewater" a little chilling this time of year. Jim