I knew you would respond that way about the US. That's why I told you that I am not an apologist for my country's actions.

Fair enough on the English distinction. I actually thought about that while I was composing my post. But I don't accept, and I acknowledge not having first hand knowledge here, that there are no English songs sung in those halls, nor do I accept the following premise:

They do not sing any such.

Your post, while we will have to disagree, is a fair description of your view. I appreciate the even tone of it.

Mick