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Thread #77066   Message #2090815
Posted By: Azizi
30-Jun-07 - 08:39 AM
Thread Name: Kids chant Stella Ola Ola / Stella Ella Ola
Subject: RE: Kids chant Stella Ola Ola / Stella Ella Ola
CORRECTION

In my 26 Dec 06 - 08:06 AM post to this thread, I gave an INCORRECT definition of "getting owned".

See this definition from http://www.gotowned.cn/ :

{Meaning of "owned"}-"To be defeated in a computer game, causing the winner's ego to inflate like a party balloon as if such a victory has any tangible significance outside that of his stinking socks-infested dorm room"...

Here's a definition of "pwned" from that same website-"A corruption of the word "Owned." This originated in an online game called Warcraft, where a map designer misspelled "owned." When the computer beat a player, it was supposed to say, so-and-so "has been owned."
Instead, it said, so-and-so "has been pwned." It basically means "to own" or to be dominated by an opponent or situation..."

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Some children's rhymes end with "Shut up, girl. You just got served". Here's a definition of "getting served", Here's a longish excerpt from that provides a definition of and a theory about the origin of the colloquial expression "getting served":

"Unwitting people can get dissed, schooled, burned, ho'd, shown up, etc. And, if the conditions are just right, and the stars so aligned, they just might find themselves on the receiving end of a serve.

As the two utterances of the titular line in the film "You Got Served" exemplify, getting served suggests being demonstrably outperformed at a given task. To serve has meant 'to play a trick on someone' since the late 16th century, though in this sense it has most often been used as to serve a turn, and is rarely heard nowadays. This meaning better fits the connotations of getting punk'd, as trickery is a key component.

A closer fit and a possible origin for the current sense of getting served is an Australian slang verb phrase dating to the 1970s: to give a serve, meaning 'to reprimand sharply.'

Speakers today usually use punk'd and served with the verb "to get" instead of the "to be" more common to formal passive constructions (e.g., "you were punk'd!"). According to English Prof. Anne Curzan, "Passives such as 'you got served' are often viewed as colloquial and perhaps too informal or somehow improper (even though history shows that Jane Austen and Charles Dickens used them). It's possible, though, that passives can mean something slightly different from passives with 'to be,' which is why they can be useful: They can emphasize process, they can be emphatic, or they can suggest that the subject is in part responsible for what happened ('she got fired')." In the case of served, changing the verb alters the meaning, from the traditional definition 'have a service done for' to the more slang 'be outperformed.'...

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See the beginning part of this article for the colloquial meaning of "being punked",though I haven't [yet] seen that phrase in children's rhymes. The only examples in that article that I have found in children's rhymes {given in order of the one I've found most frequently to the one I've found the least number of times-of course this is totally unscientific}:

1. You just got dissed
2. You just got served
3. You just got owned.
4. You just got pnwed


The word "diss" comes from disrespected. A diss is both an action and the product of that action. {to insult someone or to act insulting towards someone, including "icing" them {one meaning of the old school [1960s or so] word "icing" is to "ignore someone". "Igging" is even older word for ignoring someone-acting like the person isn't even there.

In the context of the children's rhyme, the line "Shut up, girl. You just got dissed" means that she got insulted big time.

I also believe that "diss" in that line is the same as or very similar to the African American colloquial phrase-"getting played".

"You just got played" means you just got made a fool out of. "Being played" is a putdown which labels the person as nothing but a "plaything".